Discussion:
quantization/notation queries
Rob Canning
2007-03-02 21:27:39 UTC
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hi,

this may be me doing something wrong but...
bar 3 in the second part why has the long tied note got a triplet over it

also.. this may be my poor musicianship but... in 6/8 shouldn't it be
two tied dotted crotchets or a dotted minum rather than a tied crotchet
and a minum?

thanks
rob

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David Psenicka
2007-03-03 01:08:27 UTC
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Rob,

I think you want :comp set to t in the time signature:

TIMESIG :OFF 0 :TIME (6 8) :COMP t

Then it should give you the dotted notes (fomus also interprets 1 beat =
dotted quarter like it should). I'll make this the default behavior for
any time signature divisible by three (like anyone would expect :) )

In the output (after I changed it to comp = t) I saw a funny beam or two
(I keep running into this issue)--another small bug to fix.

Thanks again,

-David
Post by Rob Canning
hi,
this may be me doing something wrong but...
bar 3 in the second part why has the long tied note got a triplet over it
also.. this may be my poor musicianship but... in 6/8 shouldn't it be
two tied dotted crotchets or a dotted minum rather than a tied
crotchet and a minum?
thanks
rob
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"draft-clarinet-piece.xml")(:lilypond
:view t)));
init :filename "test;
(init :title "test" :subtitle "draft
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TIMESIG :OFF 0 :TIME (6 8);
init :verbose 2;
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